Oktoberquest 2019 - Revision history

Tharius: /* Reflection */

2019-11-10T03:24:12Z

Reflection

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	Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.		Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.

	While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[~~Quantum Spike~~]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.		While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[quantum spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.

	Had the quest awarded partial points for a Bill fight, or had given players a choice of difficult tasks so that Bill was not the bottle neck between success and failure, this might have afforded players a chance to strategize on which tasks to complete to maximize gains based on their own builds and thus put a level of competition back into it.		Had the quest awarded partial points for a Bill fight, or had given players a choice of difficult tasks so that Bill was not the bottle neck between success and failure, this might have afforded players a chance to strategize on which tasks to complete to maximize gains based on their own builds and thus put a level of competition back into it.

Tharius: /* Reflection */

2019-11-10T03:23:44Z

Reflection

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	= Reflection =		= Reflection =
	In addition to comments left on [https://blogs.realmsofdespair.info/tharius/blog/2019/10/30/grus-gott-adventurers-happy-oktoberquest-the-annual-celebration-of-fomo/\|Tharius' Blog of Despair], at the risk of being too critical, it was clear from the beginning that Bill was not well balanced to all classes ~~and~~ that ~~this~~ was ~~going~~ to be ~~another case of~~ the ~~rich get richer~~. Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.		In addition to comments left on [https://blogs.realmsofdespair.info/tharius/blog/2019/10/30/grus-gott-adventurers-happy-oktoberquest-the-annual-celebration-of-fomo/\|Tharius' Blog of Despair], at the risk of being too critical, it was felt clear from the beginning that Bill was not well balanced to all classes. Zistrosk has responded to this by revealing that bill was highly susceptible to energy and fire, and somewhat susceptible to drain. With only a single attack and some random programs for damage he topped out about 160hp in healing/round and dealt 221 damage plus punches, kicks, and trips. With this insight it is possible a [[paladin]] could defeat the 15 point Bill using a combination of a [[Nasr, Claymore of Sovereignty\|Nasr]] and reciting [[quantum spike]] scrolls but it still seems quite unlikely that a character in the [[fighter]] genre would be able to create the damage output requried to kill Bill at the toughest levels.

			Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.

	While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[Quantum Spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.		While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[Quantum Spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.
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	Had the quest awarded partial points for a Bill fight, or had given players a choice of difficult tasks so that Bill was not the bottle neck between success and failure, this might have afforded players a chance to strategize on which tasks to complete to maximize gains based on their own builds and thus put a level of competition back into it.		Had the quest awarded partial points for a Bill fight, or had given players a choice of difficult tasks so that Bill was not the bottle neck between success and failure, this might have afforded players a chance to strategize on which tasks to complete to maximize gains based on their own builds and thus put a level of competition back into it.

	It is conceded that not every item in a quest needs to have a purpose, however there was a missed opportunity to use the food objects, like intentionally retrieving a bad sausage once per day (since they didn't purge in your inventory) to poison Bill, or to use the beer drinking theme and some drinking related socials or Oktoberfest drinking phrases to get Bill drunk and lessen his mental state~~. It is speculated that Bill was particularly susceptible to Nephandi spelldowns and this could have been a balancing element~~.		It is conceded that not every item in a quest needs to have a purpose, however there was a missed opportunity to use the food objects, like intentionally retrieving a bad sausage once per day (since they didn't purge in your inventory) to poison Bill, or to use the beer drinking theme and some drinking related socials or Oktoberfest drinking phrases to get Bill drunk and lessen his mental state.

	It is very easy to be critical from the outside looking in, and the fact that a multi week quest is not easy to design, create, or administer is entirely acknowledged.		It is very easy to be critical from the outside looking in, and the fact that a multi week quest is not easy to design, create, or administer is entirely acknowledged.

Tharius: /* Participation */

2019-11-10T03:14:11Z

Participation

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	== Participation ==		== Participation ==
			[[File:Oq2019 participation.JPG]]

	== Minor items ==		== Minor items ==

Tharius: /* Point Leaders */

2019-11-10T03:11:53Z

Point Leaders

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	= Statistics =		= Statistics =
	== Point Leaders ==		== Point Leaders ==
	[[File:Oq2019~~-pointsPerDay~~.~~png\|200px~~]]		[[File:Oq2019 final score.JPG]]

	[[File:Oq2019-pointsLeaders.png\|950px]]		[[File:Oq2019-pointsLeaders.png\|950px]]

Tharius: /* Barrel Challenge */

2019-11-10T03:02:45Z

Barrel Challenge

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	[[File:Oq2019-barrelStart.PNG\|600px]]		[[File:Oq2019-barrelStart.PNG\|600px]]

			[[File:Oq2019-barrelStoneBounce.PNG\|250px]]
			[[File:Oq2019-barrelTreeDuck.PNG\|250px]]

	=== Schuhplattler (dance) Contest ===		=== Schuhplattler (dance) Contest ===

Tharius at 03:14, 8 November 2019

2019-11-08T03:14:16Z

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	* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Guardian's Exigency]] set.		* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Guardian's Exigency]] set.
	* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Garments of the Ilythiiri]] set.		* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Garments of the Ilythiiri]] set.
	* The remaining quest participants received ~~gold~~ only.		* The remaining quest participants received glory only, reducing by final position.

	= Reflection =		= Reflection =

Tharius: /* Final prizes */

2019-11-01T01:35:46Z

Final prizes

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	[[Zistrosk]] awarded prizes as follows:		[[Zistrosk]] awarded prizes as follows:

	* The top 5 received glory and a ~~nice ankle item~~		* The top 5 received glory and a [[spiked barbaric anklebleeder]]
	* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Guardian's Exigency]] set.		* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Guardian's Exigency]] set.
	* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Garments of the Ilythiiri]] set.		* The next 5 received glory and a piece of the [[Garments of the Ilythiiri]] set.

Tharius: /* Reflection */

2019-10-31T19:02:05Z

Reflection

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	In addition to comments left on [https://blogs.realmsofdespair.info/tharius/blog/2019/10/30/grus-gott-adventurers-happy-oktoberquest-the-annual-celebration-of-fomo/\|Tharius' Blog of Despair], at the risk of being too critical, it was clear from the beginning that Bill was not well balanced to all classes and that this was going to be another case of the rich get richer. Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.		In addition to comments left on [https://blogs.realmsofdespair.info/tharius/blog/2019/10/30/grus-gott-adventurers-happy-oktoberquest-the-annual-celebration-of-fomo/\|Tharius' Blog of Despair], at the risk of being too critical, it was clear from the beginning that Bill was not well balanced to all classes and that this was going to be another case of the rich get richer. Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.

	While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]~~\|dr~~] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[Quantum Spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.		While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[Quantum Spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.

	Had the quest awarded partial points for a Bill fight, or had given players a choice of difficult tasks so that Bill was not the bottle neck between success and failure, this might have afforded players a chance to strategize on which tasks to complete to maximize gains based on their own builds and thus put a level of competition back into it.		Had the quest awarded partial points for a Bill fight, or had given players a choice of difficult tasks so that Bill was not the bottle neck between success and failure, this might have afforded players a chance to strategize on which tasks to complete to maximize gains based on their own builds and thus put a level of competition back into it.

Tharius: /* Reflection */

2019-10-31T19:01:47Z

Reflection

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	= Reflection =		= Reflection =
	In addition to comments left on [https://blogs.realmsofdespair.info/tharius/blog/2019/10/30/grus-gott-adventurers-happy-oktoberquest-the-annual-celebration-of-fomo/\|Tharius' Blog of Despair]~~. At~~ risk of being too critical it was clear from the beginning that Bill was not well balanced to all classes and that this was going to be another case of the rich get richer. Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.		In addition to comments left on [https://blogs.realmsofdespair.info/tharius/blog/2019/10/30/grus-gott-adventurers-happy-oktoberquest-the-annual-celebration-of-fomo/\|Tharius' Blog of Despair], at the risk of being too critical, it was clear from the beginning that Bill was not well balanced to all classes and that this was going to be another case of the rich get richer. Some players performed a procedure that can only be described as "Operation Storage Room Relocation" on a daily basis, dumping thousands of heals on the floor of Bill's room to achieve their kills. PK heals being much less expensive than PF heals certainly paid off for some competitors.

	While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]\|dr] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[Quantum Spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.		While attention was paid to attempting to foil people scripting the dancing game the flaws in the major point differentiating portion of the quest were not corrected. Reliance on high [[damage roll]\|dr] builds where the alpha attacks scaled with DR or use of prestige characters seemed to be the entry level to the 20/25 point rounds that provided the best ultimate rewards. [[Shieldbash]], melee combat, [[Quantum Spike]], and other techniques could not overcome the healing rate of Bill seemingly even at the 15 point level, so classes whose damage did not scale up with the quality of the character were at a distinct disadvantage to the tune of 200-350 points. Once you knew you could kill Bill you were set. While you were trying to climb the difficulty ramp you hemorrhaged points as nothing was given for an attempt that failed.

Tharius: /* Beer Barrel Keg Tapping */

2019-10-31T18:56:10Z

Beer Barrel Keg Tapping

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	=== Beer Barrel Keg Tapping ===		=== Beer Barrel Keg Tapping ===
	(max 6 pts / day) Tap the keg, get the points. A little RNG for your day. Tap soft, medium, or hard in order to drive the spout into the barrel. If you only use soft taps you will run out of turns before the barrel is tapped (after all, we're thirsty and who wants to wait). Each level of power carries an increasing risk of splitting the barrel and spilling the beer. Gain more points by using fewer hits.		(max 6 pts / day) Tap the keg, get the points. A little RNG for your day. Tap soft, medium, or hard in order to drive the spout into the barrel. If you only use soft taps you will run out of turns before the barrel is tapped (after all, we're thirsty and who wants to wait). Each level of power carries an increasing risk of splitting the barrel and spilling the beer. Gain more points by using fewer hits. The maximum point level involved 2 hard hits and a medium hit, meaning that testing hard, hard, medium / hard, medium, hard / medium, hard, hard was an effective way to spend your 3 turns.

	[[File:Oq2019-tappedKeg.PNG\|600px]]		[[File:Oq2019-tappedKeg.PNG\|600px]]